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NBA's Best: The Current Era

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Which era of the NBA do you think is best?

  • 80's
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  • 90's
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  • Current
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  • What's the NBA?
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For those of you reading this on brandonmay.com, here's a quick explanation. I post a lot of my stuff from my Mavs blog on a site called Newsvine. Since I'm kind of a big deal, I've made a few mutual NBA friends. Two of those friends, Jordan Rivas (a Spurs fan) and Todd Dybas (a Celtics fan), have solicited me to help them with a little case study. We are debating which era of the NBA is better. Todd is taking the 80's, Jordan is taking the 90's, and I am taking the present era from 2000 to now. Here I will debate why the current era of the NBA rocks your panties off to an unprecedented extent.

For the sake of equal time, here's a link to Todd's debate, and here's a link to Jordan's debate.

And here's my debate:

The NBA of the current era is not without its flaws, but it's still super rad. The current NBA could kick you in the giggleberries, steal your girlfriend, and slap your mother's face, but you would still elect it mayor of Awesomeville. It's not driving around the high school parking lot in an IROC Camaro blaring Whitesnake, honking at the chicks. It's not dancing around in parachute pants with "Word to your Mother" bedazzled on the back of it's jacket, claiming to be from the streets. This NBA has a dress code, allowing even the ugliest and thuggish players to look like GQ cover models that you would love to invite over for Thanksgiving. I mean, what makes you forget about that neck tattoo of one of their baby mama's names like a nice hounds tooth sport coat?

The NBA now has the luxury tax, which allows teams to exceed the cap but with a penalty. That process isn't perfected yet, but I think it helps more teams stay competitive. You have a rookie salary scale that forces younger players to prove themselves before landing that huge contract. You have dynasties, you have drama, and you have some of the best young talent this league has seen in quite some time. But let's get to the players.

You have Shaq. Sure he came into the league in the early 90's, but he didn't start winning rings until 2000. More importantly, he did stop making movies.

You have Tim Duncan. Sure he's about as exciting as watching a turd dry out in the sun, but he's got 4 rings in the last 9 years and is arguably the most reliable, consistent, fundamentally sound big man in the game today. One of the greats.

You have my man Dirk Nowitzki. Sure his recent playoff failures are well documented, but he's single handedly redefined what the NBA can expect out of a 7-foot power forward with how he shoots, handles the ball, runs the floor and creates defensive nightmares.

You have Tracy McGrady, Gilbert Arenas, and Kobe Bryant. Sure T-Mac has never made it out of the first round, Agent Zero sometimes talks a little more than he should, and Kobe's a rapist. But either of these guys can put up electrifying offensive numbers night in and night out. They are consistent 50+ point threats on any given night.

You have veteran stars like Kevin Garnett, Jason Kidd, Chauncey Billups, Richard Hamilton, Jermaine O'Neal, Allen Iverson, Michael Redd, Alonzo Mourning, Rashard Lewis, Antawn Jamison, Jerry Stackhouse, Jason Terry, Baron Davis, Elton Brand, Shawn Marion, Steve Nash, Ray Allen, Paul Pierce and Mike Bibby. All these guys have been in the league for more than 6 years, but most of them have continued to play at a high level and be a pivotal component for their teams.

But the most impressive thing about the current era of the NBA, what makes it so exciting, both right now and for the future, is the list of players that have been in the league for 6 years or less, which means that barring injury this list of talented, electric young players still have many years to entertain us, are loaded with potential, and most of them haven't even entered their prime yet. Let me throw out a little list, and tell me if this does anything for you.

Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili, Kevin Martin, Josh Howard, Devin Harris, Yao Ming, Pau Gasol, Andre Iguodala, Chris Bosh, Chris Paul, Luol Deng, Ben Gordon, Lebron James, Tayshaun Prince, Carmelo Anthony, LeMarcus Aldridge, Brandon Roy, Greg Oden, Kevin Durant, Josh Smith, Joe Johnson, Jason Richardson, Dwyane Wade, Dwight Howard, Carlos Boozer, Deron Williams, Chris Kaman, Leandro Barbosa, Boris Diaw, and Amare Stoudemire. How do you like that? Blow your mind? I know.

Every era of the NBA has it's pros and cons both off the court and on. This current era has seen unprecedented on-court brawls, referee gambling scandals, players running afoul of the law, and a power hungry commissioner that is becoming a little behind the times and losing some of his luster. But when it comes down to it, it all boils down to one thing and that's the players on the court and how they perform. From top to bottom, I think the current era of the NBA has more talent, from both veteran stars and promising young players, than ever before. That is the reason to celebrate. That is the reason to watch the regular season. That is the reason the current era of the NBA will rock your panties off. That is the reason that right here, right now, today's NBA is the best.

Please take a moment to read Todd and Jordan's arguments in favor of the other two eras, and be sure to tip your waitress. I'll be here all week.

Oh, and Go Mavs!

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The NBA of the current era is not without its flaws, but it's still super rad. The current NBA could kick you in the giggleberries, steal your girlfriend, and slap your mother's face, but you would still elect it mayor of Awesomeville.

That passage alone should get you a medal. In fact that whole paragraph was pretty sweet.

But for argument's sake, does Alonzo Mourning really get to be listed as a star anymore? He's like a 97-years-old by now, right?

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  • 2 votes
Reply#1 - Mon Nov 12, 2007 12:20 AM EST
{"commentId":1177827,"authorDomain":"brandonmay"}

I give Mourning extra credit for the kidney thing. He could have hung it up when he got sick and would have had a very good legacy behind him as a basketball player. Instead, he fought back and finally won a championship, albeit on the heels of Shaq, Wade, and the officials that sent Wade to the line 154 times during the Finals.
So tell me more about this medal you speak of. Are you naming me mayor of Awesomeville?

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  • 2 votes
#1.1 - Mon Nov 12, 2007 12:32 AM EST
{"commentId":1177874,"authorDomain":"jordanrivas"}

Alright, yeah, I agree on 'Zo, he does deserve some credit for that.

Are you naming me mayor of Awesomeville?

Only if I get to be the corrupt city councilman.

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  • 2 votes
#1.2 - Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:21 AM EST
{"commentId":1180664,"authorDomain":"ramonlo"}

I get to see Zo up close as he plays for my hometown Heat and he still brings it defensively. It's unbelievable how intense he plays. If not for that kidney thing, there would be no D-Wade, no Shaq, and no trophy in Miami....just a 0-9 football team.

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  • 2 votes
#1.3 - Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:04 PM EST
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{"commentId":1178132,"authorDomain":"deatienza"}

Did you just draw the short straw when you guys were divvying up the decades? ;)

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  • 2 votes
Reply#2 - Mon Nov 12, 2007 8:26 AM EST
{"commentId":1178305,"authorDomain":"brandonmay"}

Absolutely. It took me a day just to figure out how the hell I was going to conceivably argue how the current era is better than the 80's and 90's. I knew that Jordan and Todd had such legendary names to argue. But when I realized that right now, the NBA is stocked with such promising young talent, I felt comfortable going with that angle. With so many exciting young prospects, it's not inconceivable when it's all said and done that the Lebrons, Stoudemires, Howards (Dwight and Josh), Pauls, Wades, etc. of the NBA forge their own fraternity of legendary players in the same mold as Bird, Magic, Jordan, and Olajuwon.
In this debate, they took the Ohio States of the argument. I took the Illinois. And I think we all know how that turned out.
Thanks for reading, Eric.

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#2.1 - Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:09 AM EST
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{"commentId":1178371,"authorDomain":"brandonmay"}

Eric has asked for my starting 5 for the current era. Actually, I think he has asked me. He might have asked someone else, but I'm going to pretend he asked me.

Disclaimer: Today's NBA has turned traditional positions into a big melting pot. Small ball, Big Ball, Swing Men, Point Forwards, etc. I'm going to list the most dominant players of this era and try to put them at their traditional position, but I reserve the right to play them out of position to give the right players their due.

Center: Shaq
Power Forward: Duncan
Small Forward: Garnett
Shooting Guard: Kobe
Point Guard: Kidd

I would back up Shaq with nobody. There hasn't been a true dominant center that has played the bulk of their prime in this era. Maybe I slip Stoudemire in there.
I would back up Duncan with Dirk. I would back up Garnett with McGrady. I would back up Kobe with Reggie Miller. I would back up Kidd with Nash. If this is a true 15 man squad, then I would round out the line up with Parker at point, Wade at the 2, Lebron at the 3, Dwight Howard at the 4, and Jermaine O'Neal at the 5.

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  • 1 vote
Reply#3 - Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:41 AM EST
{"commentId":1178698,"authorDomain":"deatienza"}

Reggie Miller kind of straddles the two though doesn't he? In my mind he's a 90s era player that just continued on into the current era... he still played more like a 90s player though.

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  • 2 votes
#3.1 - Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:20 PM EST
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He never made the Finals until the current era, though. And he just retired a few years ago, and was speculated to come out of retirement a few times. I would say that even though he was mostly a 90's player, his most significant years came in the 2000's. And with the exception of Ray Allen, we haven't seen a more pure shooter since he left.

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  • 1 vote
#3.2 - Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:31 PM EST
{"commentId":1179338,"authorDomain":"egyptiandude44"}

Yo Ime a Pacers fan and Ime liking the love you just gave us... I mean Jermaine O'Neal and Reggie Miller making the top 15 list, but I definately agree with that list. The only thing I would change is I would have Dwight Howard as the back up to Shaq, not Amare. Yao Ming might not be a bad choice too but I think Dwight has more talent.

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#3.3 - Mon Nov 12, 2007 3:56 PM EST
{"commentId":1179408,"authorDomain":"jordanrivas"}

Wait a minute... no Allen Iverson? I nearly considered trying to stick him into the 90s discussion, but he's only been in the league since '96 so I didn't think I could make that fly. How can you not even mention Iverson in the current era?

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  • 2 votes
#3.4 - Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:12 PM EST
{"commentId":1179429,"authorDomain":"thevineofhob"}

Allen Iverson, bringing hope to short people everywhere.

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#3.5 - Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:18 PM EST
{"commentId":1179851,"authorDomain":"deatienza"}
He never made the Finals until the current era, though.

Doesn't that just show the superiority of the 90s era? ;)

Allen Iverson, bringing hope to short people everywhere.

Actually that'd be Mugsy Bogues.

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  • 4 votes
#3.6 - Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:21 PM EST
{"commentId":1182369,"authorDomain":"brandonmay"}

I left off Iverson for two reasons:
First, where do you put him? Is he a point guard or a 2 guard? Maybe you leave off Reggie Miller, but if you look at my list of players for this era that are points or 2's, who do you replace with Iverson? Do you put him ahead of Kidd or Nash or Parker? Parker's got rings, Nash has more MVP's and gets his team involved, and Kidd is a triple-double machine. Do you put him ahead of Kobe, McGrady, Wade, Lebron, or Miller? I'm not so sure.
Second, Iverson hates practice.

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  • 1 vote
#3.7 - Tue Nov 13, 2007 3:21 PM EST
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{"commentId":1179045,"authorDomain":"RebelGirl"}

YEAH GO MAVS!! As long as we beat San Antonio in every game we play them this year, they can lose every other one in my book!

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  • 2 votes
Reply#4 - Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:42 PM EST
{"commentId":1179070,"authorDomain":"deatienza"}

Oh God, there's another one...

=P

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  • 3 votes
#4.1 - Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:48 PM EST
{"commentId":1179093,"authorDomain":"RebelGirl"}

LOL.... Yes, I love me some Mavs... I spent a great deal of time in San Antonio and Spurs fans are not nice, so I have elected to not cheer for them. Went to the Finals to watch San Antonio and Detroit and I was not impressed by the crowd, even at a big game like that.

There is nothing like a Mavs game, say what you will about Mark Cuban, but he is extremely talented at making sure the fans are entertained.

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  • 2 votes
#4.2 - Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:53 PM EST
{"commentId":1179399,"authorDomain":"jordanrivas"}
I spent a great deal of time in San Antonio and Spurs fans are not nice, so I have elected to not cheer for them.

Whoa there, as a life long San Antonian I must protest. While I admit people here can definitely get carried away with Spurs fever, what exactly was 'not nice' about the people you encountered here? Most people here are actually pretty nice.

And more than that, I don't think anyone would disagree the Spurs players are some of the nicest guys in the league.

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  • 3 votes
#4.3 - Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:10 PM EST
{"commentId":1179840,"authorDomain":"RebelGirl"}

Its not the people, I love the people of San Antonio and the city is amazing! I meant the fans can be a little over the top and well if the word "Maverick" is mentioned then its a whole different story!

I love Tim Duncan and the other players, I am a Dallas fan, hating the Spurs is what we are SUPPOSED to do ;O)

Go Easy THEM THERE COWBOY!

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  • 2 votes
#4.4 - Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:19 PM EST
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{"commentId":1180690,"authorDomain":"ramonlo"}

I don't know if this was an intentional oversight or not but thank goodness. No mention for the 90s or even the current era of the starting shooting guard of the All Overrated Team Vince Carter????

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  • 1 vote
Reply#5 - Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:15 PM EST
{"commentId":1182436,"authorDomain":"brandonmay"}

Vince got love from me his first few years, but I quickly got off that train.

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#5.1 - Tue Nov 13, 2007 3:39 PM EST
{"commentId":1182504,"authorDomain":"ramonlo"}

Modern Day Dominique Wilkins.

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#5.2 - Tue Nov 13, 2007 3:57 PM EST
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